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| Druka vs. Karya | |
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+10Psyma masterpopo Beew totoyliksi HEALYOUALL knightrain001 ivorvhan rockybulbowa GM Rikuo ronnpachormz 14 posters | |
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ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Druka vs. Karya November 28th 2012, 7:31 pm | |
| First topic message reminder :GM, I think po nakuha ko na ang tamang dapat iupdate niyo po. Concern lang po sa lahat ng mga druka vs sa mga karya po. Lagi kasi kami miss sa mga karya. Pati hide akila namin o kaya mostly mga skills miss eh. Sobra lang po talagang low AS namin. As compared po sa ibang tantra, mataas AS rate ng mga druka don. Dapat lang po kasi high AS ang mga druka at low AS sa karya. eto po dapat: Karya = Low AS, High Avoidance Druka = Low Avoidance, High AS Kasi napansin ko po na High AS sa Karya, High Avoid din. Sobrang lugi po talaga mga druka tapos hard to lapit pa sa kanila. Nag try na po ako ng maraming beses naki 1 on 1 sa Kruma vs Karya. SUN 5 parts po ako vs Black Set Karya. Lagi po miss Vega ko, miss din hide Akila ko, miss Stun ko. Wala na akong combo magawa. Pots lang ng pots. Palagi ako talo ng Karya 1 on 1 kanina sa Kruma kahit anong gawin ko o anong diskarte magagawa ko. Palagi din kasi success mga hits ng Karya sa akin eh naka SUN Parts pa naman ako. Sana po you'll hear this concern sa druka. Di lang sa karya mag miss, pati na rin sa mga malalambot na tribes like Devas. Sana po mapataas niyo na po AS ng Druka at mapababa ang AS ng Karya. Sobra kasi high ng Avoid nila. Para po fair sa lahat ng tribes. One last thing about sa Karya SS skill. Masyado pa ring masakit. Di nga maka one hit pero 1/4 life matitira. habang VD may 1/2 life matitira sa kalaban at palaging mag miss. Sana po magawa niyo to ng paraan. Para din po sa mga Satya/Banar Amara skill. 1 hit lang po lahat tribes sa Amara skill nila. Kung marami nag reklamo sa 1 hit VD ng druka noon, time na po namin mag reklamo ngaun sa 1 hit kill ng Satya/Banar Amara skill and sa almost 1 hit kill SS ng Karya. Masyado na po kasing mababa damage ng druka ngaun so it's kinda unfair na po dahil wala damage masyado ang druka as compared sa malalaking damage sa Karya at Satya/Banar/Samabat/Abikara/Yuda. Sa Deva nga lang po, okay na. Malakas at mahapdi na skill damage nila. Hehehe. Good job po sa pagpataas ng damage nila mga deva at yuda. Sa druka lang main concern ko about sa damage at AS ng mga druka. I hope po you'll consider these suggestions lang sa next update THANKS! MORE POWER! IT'S MORE FUN IN TANTRA ELYSIUM! | |
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ronnpachormz Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya November 30th 2012, 5:50 am | |
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| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya November 30th 2012, 4:56 pm | |
| Hahaha! Kelan po next update? | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 6:27 am | |
| hmmm | |
| | | knightrain001 Elysium Member
Posts : 146 Points : 4609 Join date : 03/11/2012 Age : 30 Location : Nasipit Agusan del Norte
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 9:36 am | |
| ang sakit ng SS ...kahit abikara na meron shield tsaka meron naka +15... 1SS lang minsan...umaabot pa ng 35k...zzzzz.. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 9:41 am | |
| Kaya nga. Yan din concern ko. Hahaha! Lahat na ata na tribes may 2 hits na combo na. Gaya ng Yuda, Prapad Azbata lang ded agad kalaban. Satya/Banar, 1 hit lang nga Amara skill. Karya SS lang patay na kalaban. Hahaha! Druka? VD pinabaan damage. Wew. 1/2 lang sa HP ng kalaban matira. So unfair lang din kasi lagi miss pag umaatake tapos hirap pa makalapit. Hahaa Kahit AS lang pataasin at konting damage din pataas. Okay na ako sa Druka nyan. Yan lang last concern ko. Hahaha! Up na po sa next update. I will wait and I'm excited for this update na rin. Heheh Thanks! | |
| | | HEALYOUALL Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 1:53 pm | |
| GM about the agupta skill e try nyo na po ba e repair this coming tuesday in your weekly maintenance? | |
| | | GM Rikuo Elysium Administrator
Posts : 524 Points : 2239795 Join date : 08/10/2012
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 2:28 pm | |
| yes! kasali n ung avoid-accuracy issue! | |
| | | HEALYOUALL Elysium Member
Posts : 110 Points : 4507 Join date : 23/11/2012 Age : 34 Location : Catmon Cebu
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 2:34 pm | |
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| | | knightrain001 Elysium Member
Posts : 146 Points : 4609 Join date : 03/11/2012 Age : 30 Location : Nasipit Agusan del Norte
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 3:46 pm | |
| thx...alot GM....more Power po sa in.u....the Tantra Elysium will Rise....more players will be coming... ....ako pa 1st player d2 sa aming lugar...just keep recruiting ako..para mag play...just got lucky..i recruit 1 ....haha...and this 1 guy..i recruit is a son of shop owner....ang now....installing TANTRA ELYSIUM in this Cafe...hoping sana rumami adik na players d2..... GODBLESS and MORE POWER!... | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 1st 2012, 4:38 pm | |
| YES! Thank you po marami, GM! | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 8:03 am | |
| Can't wait to UP | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 3:52 pm | |
| UP | |
| | | totoyliksi Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 7:11 pm | |
| - ronnpachormz wrote:
Kasi napansin ko po na High AS sa Karya, High Avoid din. Sobrang lugi po talaga mga druka tapos hard to lapit pa sa kanila. Nag try na po ako ng maraming beses naki 1 on 1 sa Kruma vs Karya. SUN 5 parts po ako vs Black Set Karya.
Sana po mapataas niyo na po AS ng Druka at mapababa ang AS ng Karya. Sobra kasi high ng Avoid nila. Para po fair sa lahat ng tribes.
One last thing about sa Karya SS skill. Masyado pa ring masakit. Di nga maka one hit pero 1/4 life matitira. habang VD may 1/2 life matitira sa kalaban
Sir... regarding these... mdyo natawa lng ako. 1 on 1 sa Kruma vs Karya -> Then don't go to kruma if you mostly expect and complain about 1v1 battles. Go to mandara and duel them LOL. Yung gameplay ng Elysium is more on a team concept. Even if you have a complete set you need help from others, the donation set does not make you IMMORTAL like other servers do. And that is why it is challenging. Take that away and it is a boring game. mapababa ang AS ng Karya. -> What for? Parang sinabi mo na ring magmental ang karya Nerve generates AS / Avoid / Defense which are the jobs main attributes. We DO miss as well not only on Karya vs Karya and Karya vs Other tribes if the combo is not done properly. One last thing about sa Karya SS skill. Masyado pa ring masakit. Di nga maka one hit pero 1/4 life matitira. habang VD may 1/2 life matitira sa kalabanIf a druka knows how to time his normals with V+D, your damage is not 1/2. I've tested it with SilverSurfer. He does not have a 1/2 damage VD. LOL Kung 1/2 lng po V+D nyo... then may problema po char nyo. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 8:12 pm | |
| - totoyliksi wrote:
- ronnpachormz wrote:
Kasi napansin ko po na High AS sa Karya, High Avoid din. Sobrang lugi po talaga mga druka tapos hard to lapit pa sa kanila. Nag try na po ako ng maraming beses naki 1 on 1 sa Kruma vs Karya. SUN 5 parts po ako vs Black Set Karya.
Sana po mapataas niyo na po AS ng Druka at mapababa ang AS ng Karya. Sobra kasi high ng Avoid nila. Para po fair sa lahat ng tribes.
One last thing about sa Karya SS skill. Masyado pa ring masakit. Di nga maka one hit pero 1/4 life matitira. habang VD may 1/2 life matitira sa kalaban
Sir... regarding these... mdyo natawa lng ako.
1 on 1 sa Kruma vs Karya -> Then don't go to kruma if you mostly expect and complain about 1v1 battles. Go to mandara and duel them LOL. Yung gameplay ng Elysium is more on a team concept. Even if you have a complete set you need help from others, the donation set does not make you IMMORTAL like other servers do. And that is why it is challenging. Take that away and it is a boring game.
mapababa ang AS ng Karya. -> What for? Parang sinabi mo na ring magmental ang karya Nerve generates AS / Avoid / Defense which are the jobs main attributes. We DO miss as well not only on Karya vs Karya and Karya vs Other tribes if the combo is not done properly.
One last thing about sa Karya SS skill. Masyado pa ring masakit. Di nga maka one hit pero 1/4 life matitira. habang VD may 1/2 life matitira sa kalaban If a druka knows how to time his normals with V+D, your damage is not 1/2. I've tested it with SilverSurfer. He does not have a 1/2 damage VD. LOL Kung 1/2 lng po V+D nyo... then may problema po char nyo.
What I mean sa 1 on 1 Vs. Karya is kung nag solo ka sa isang lugar dahil na iwan ka ng ka-god mo or party mo tapos na hunt ka ng karya, so mag 1 on 1 kayo. Gusto ko, fair play lang. Either Karya or Druka ang manalo, depende sa diskarte. Syempre, gusto lahat ng gameplay. Pero for instances and situation na ganyan, it's likeley unfair sa mga druka noting that di sila makapalit tapos laki pa damage ng SS, saka kung makalapit naman, miss most of skills kahit na hahanapan pa ng timing. THen again, read the post of Karya and Druka players here in game. Karya's are suppose to be SUPPORT job. Not the over-powered job. They support damage their damager's which are the Yuda and Druka. Kaya nga malayo range nila at laki avoidance nila. Kung sakali mag miss ka kay SilverSurfer, sa items na nya yun kung ano pinag gawa niya sa pag ups. SilverSurfer's VD is not 1/2 damage sometimes kasi baka wala ka ng armor or may naghit sayo. Don't worry, I've been hit by shim many times also. And lastly, kung napansin mo, kami mag tank ng players, kami susugod, kami damagers, pero liit life, liit avoidance at liit AS? Kung sa ganun, lugi kami. Kaya nga marami nag Karya job diba kasi malakas na, palagi pang success hits at may SS pang masakit. Malaki din avoidance at defense. So sinasabing walang use ang Druka dito? Di naman yan pwede. Dapat fair lahat. Kaya maraming nag reklamo about sa Druka na maliit damage at AS. Kung sa bagay nga, dapat mas malaki damage ng Druka kesa sa mga Karya dahil ang Druka ang damagers as well as Yuda, Karya and Vidya are support. Gusto mo bang mag Karya nalang lahat sa Kruma? Panget naman nun. Think of it that way. Kung ayaw ng mga Karya makalapit ang Druka, may chaya sila at Knock Back. May slow pa. Lugi na nga druka nyan. So dapat lang talaga palakihin damage nito at pa taasin AS nito. Para kung sakali nakalapit na ang Druka sa Karya, depende na yan sa diskarte kung sino mananalo. Support vs. Damager. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 8:14 pm | |
| For the record, hindi matatawag na challenging ang game kapag palagi mananalo Karya sa Druka. Walang suspense. Alam na natin agad ano mangyayari kung sa ganun. So dapat lang talaga pataasin damage ng druka at pataasin AS nito. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 8:27 pm | |
| Sa nakita ko din kanina habang nagkruma ako, I realized na okay na ako kung di mapababa ang AS ng Karya. No problem with that na. Total, pinahinaan din naman CD ng Sakata diba? Sa concern mo ni SilverSurfer, aw. Ewan ko. Hahaha. Malakas lang talaga xa Main concern nalang dito ay pataasin ang damage ng Druka para mag match na sila ng Karya at pataasin ang AS ng Druka para di palagi miss sa lahat ng Tribes. Akalain mo, Hide + Akila, miss lahat. Sa Druka lang xa di mag miss. Hahaha! Okay lang naman mag miss pero di sana all instances. Yan lang po. No harm done. No quarrels made. | |
| | | Beew Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 10:32 pm | |
| play sneaky pre yun lng..hehe | |
| | | ivorvhan Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 2nd 2012, 10:42 pm | |
| druka vs karya.
druka (all skills = misssssssss) vs karya (skills = successsssssss)
saan ka? pili na.. xD...
kaya pag may makita ako karya di ko na pansinin. mag hanap ako ng naga; mage; nakayauda; wahahaha.. para di na puro missssssssssssssssssss.. makikita ko sa monitor. xD.. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 7:47 am | |
| Yan din ginagawa ko. Hahaha! Kaya pag nanjan si totoyliksi, di ko xa pinapansin kasi alam ko palagi lang ako mag miss sa kanya. Mas tinatarget ko si Shanitzu, Heats or ikaw. Hahaha. Same din kasi sa side niyo, ako palagi target niyo. >.< Hahahah | |
| | | knightrain001 Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 10:00 am | |
| halos lahat ng Players na nakikita po namin sa kruma GM ...puro nlng Karya....then our skills miss...grabe naman un... | |
| | | totoyliksi Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 11:40 am | |
| @ronnpachormz What I mean sa 1 on 1 Vs. Karya is kung nag solo ka sa isang lugar dahil na iwan ka ng ka-god mo or party mo tapos na hunt ka ng karya, so mag 1 on 1 kayo. Gusto ko, fair play lang. Either Karya or Druka ang manalo, depende sa diskarte.
As of now, YES hindi mo mapapatay ang karya due to the AS issue but the karya cannot also kill you 1v1... but considering na maibalik yung 10k AS sa sun armor. A DRUKA would own a KARYA. Why...
DRUKA SKILLS V + D = average damage is 26k - 30k (depende sa weapon) Hide + Akila = average damage is 35k - 40k (depende sa weapon)
If you know how to merge your combos... Possible damage burst of about 70k.
KARYA Sakata + Samayoga magdamagan = average damage is 25k - 35k (depende sa weapon)
Now? Kailangan pa ba talaga pataasin ang damage output ng druka? All melee chars only needs AS and nothing else. | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 2:58 pm | |
| - totoyliksi wrote:
- @ronnpachormz
What I mean sa 1 on 1 Vs. Karya is kung nag solo ka sa isang lugar dahil na iwan ka ng ka-god mo or party mo tapos na hunt ka ng karya, so mag 1 on 1 kayo. Gusto ko, fair play lang. Either Karya or Druka ang manalo, depende sa diskarte.
As of now, YES hindi mo mapapatay ang karya due to the AS issue but the karya cannot also kill you 1v1... but considering na maibalik yung 10k AS sa sun armor. A DRUKA would own a KARYA. Why...
DRUKA SKILLS V + D = average damage is 26k - 30k (depende sa weapon) Hide + Akila = average damage is 35k - 40k (depende sa weapon)
If you know how to merge your combos... Possible damage burst of about 70k.
KARYA Sakata + Samayoga magdamagan = average damage is 25k - 35k (depende sa weapon)
Now? Kailangan pa ba talaga pataasin ang damage output ng druka? All melee chars only needs AS and nothing else. There is one combo other than SS sa Karya and I think many of you knows it na. Ang Sakata Poison. Malaki din damage nun. Now, sa Druka, di naman mag hit ang Hide Akila if ever Karya kalaban. Sa sinabi nga ni SilverSurfer, laging miss miss miss daw. And VD is not always really that strong. Sa sinabi ko earlier, most of the time, half lang ang damage at bihira mka 3/4 damage di gaya sa SS at Sakata Poison, usually 3/4 damage nila sa HP ng Druka. Another thing, kung mabalik man ang 10k AS sa SUN Armor, eh di mas favorable din sa inyo kasi lahat na ng attacks and combos niyo di mag miss. Mas maliit pa rin ang AS ng Druka kesa sa Karya. I am not saying na Karya should kill Druka one on one or Druka should kill Karya one on one, I am saying that it really depends lang sa diskarte kung pano manalo ang both jobs during 1 on 1 situations basta fair lang ang attributes. Druka kasi hirap lumapit sa Karya ng dahil sa chaya at knock back, so mas may advantage na ang Karya nyan. Palagi pa miss mga attacks ng druka pag makalapit na. So dapat lang din may damage ito. Yan lang naman gagawin ng mga Karya, pag nakalapit na ang druka, chaya at run far away tapos hit again. One more thing, ang Hide Akila ng mga Druka, not really that effective sa Karya, may Eye kaya sila. See? Tapos may JT pa sila na pangpaubos ng mana. Trust me, yan din problema ko pag may kalaban akong Karya, palagi ubos mana ko so di ako mka skills. | |
| | | HEALYOUALL Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 5:33 pm | |
| - ronnpachormz wrote:
- Yan din ginagawa ko. Hahaha! Kaya pag nanjan si totoyliksi, di ko xa pinapansin kasi alam ko palagi lang ako mag miss sa kanya. Mas tinatarget ko si Shanitzu, Heats or ikaw. Hahaha. Same din kasi sa side niyo, ako palagi target niyo. >.< Hahahah
Di kaya | |
| | | HEALYOUALL Elysium Member
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| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 7:21 pm | |
| hottest topic pa din to.....hahaha druka vs karya......kailan pa kaya to matatapos? | |
| | | ronnpachormz Elysium Member
Posts : 182 Points : 4664 Join date : 26/11/2012 Location : Kamagong St., Daro, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Druka vs. Karya December 3rd 2012, 7:24 pm | |
| - HEALYOUALL wrote:
- hottest topic pa din to.....hahaha druka vs karya......kailan pa kaya to matatapos?
di pa ma hilom ang lahat. haha hangga't di pa balance lahat esp Karya and Druka issue | |
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